Should you ever meet your heroes?

One of the perks of being a journalist for many years is that you have the opportunity to interview some nationally-renowned people, including politicians, sportsmen and women and celebrities.

In February 1991 I was given the opportunity meet rock star Steve Harley – who had a string of hits in the mid 1970s, including the classic number one single Make Me Smile (Come Up And See Me).

Steve and his band Cockney Rebel were my favourite group as a teenager. I loved Steve’s theatrical performances on Top Of The Pops, his intriguing lyrics and the music, which combined pop, folk and prog elements. My first concert was seeing Steve play at the Grand Theatre in Leeds and I was blown away by the music, the lighting and the spectacle.

I’d heard that Steve had a sometimes difficult relationship with the music press although – as a former journalist – he got on well with newspaper reporters.

But it was still with some trepidation that I drove to Wood Broughton, near Cartmel, on a bright winter’s morning to interview Steve face to face at the home of Marten Julian, who was (and still is) heavily involved in the horse racing business, but who was experimenting that year with putting on rock shows in South Lakeland.


Steve Harley at Wood Broughton in 1991 (Photo by Steve Barber)

Steve Harley at Wood Broughton in 1991 (Photo by Steve Barber)

Many people say you should never meet your heroes in case you are disappointed. Maybe, I thought, but that was not going to put me off.

Steve is only about eight years older than me but there is a massive gulf between a music-loving teenager and a twenty-something-year-old rock star selling hundreds of thousands of records and playing packed out concerts at the Hammersmith Odeon. But now I was an adult and an experienced reporter and I was determined to play it cool and be professional.

That said, as Marten greeted me and Gazette photographer Steve Barber at his lovely home and led us through to the sunny lounge, I glanced right and spotted a casually-dressed Steve sitting at the breakfast table reading a newspaper and having a cup of tea – and the nerves kicked in again.

Steve came in, we shook hands and I introduced myself and started asking questions. I was delighted that he was friendly and keen to talk and engage. Steve had been on the road playing nearly 200 gigs all over the world in the past two years and told me that touring and travelling was in his blood and something he relished.

We spoke about how he wrote – often in hotel rooms and during sound checks - and how he had been playing some old, never-released songs on a tape during his and Marten’s journey up from Surrey the day beforehand and how some of those songs might make it on to his next album.

He also recalled a visit to South Lakeland two years previously when he and Cockney Rebel drummer Stuart Elliott had gone out on to Windermere and Steve had taken pictures using a camera he bought in Kendal.


Steve Harley and myself at Wood Broughton in 1991 (Photo by Steve Barber)

Steve Harley and myself at Wood Broughton in 1991 (Photo by Steve Barber)

With most of what I needed in my notebook, eventually I could not resist and told Steve I was a big fan of his music. He was interested to learn that I had won a copy of his 1976 album Timeless Flight through a competition in The Sun newspaper.

Steve Barber took some great portrait photos in the lounge and some outdoor shots in the extensive gardens. Knowing I was a fan, Steve took a picture of me with Steve Harley.

And then it was back to the office to write up the interview, which appeared in The Westmorland Gazette on February 15, 1991.

For me it was a fascinating and exciting assignment. I have since interviewed Steve many times over the phone and, through my friendship with Marten Julian, which grew out of that day at Wood Broughton, I have met Steve several times. And he has always been open and charming.

So, when people ask should you ever meet your heroes my answer is simple: absolutely yes!

  • Steve Harley’s new album, Uncovered, will be released on February 21 - see https://www.steveharley.com/

How does a cartoon appear on The Westmorland Gazette front page?

One of my responsibilities at The Westmorland Gazette was to choose the cartoon which appears on the front page each week.

The Gazette cartoons are created by Colin Shelbourn, who has been producing a topical and witty illustration for the newspaper now for more than 35 years.

It’s a popular feature and one which regularly draws praise from readers. Sometimes the cartoons are just plain funny; other times they have a tougher and satirical edge – but they are always eye-catching and provide an independent viewpoint and ‘take’ on an issues making the news in the local area.

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So, what exactly is the process by which the cartoon appears on the front page of The Westmorland Gazette each week?

Usually late morning on Wednesday the news editor will receive an email from Colin asking to be sent that week’s news list. This is a document that charts the various major stories of the week and which page they are likely to appear on. It will also indicate what story is likely to make that week’s lead story – although that is not always known at this stage of the weekly cycle.

Colin browses the list and then asks for copies of those stories – or a draft if they are not yet completed – that he thinks might have the potential for a cartoon.

On other occasions Colin will visit the Gazette offices in Wainwright’s Yard for a verbal run-down of the major stories of the week.

An hour or so later Colin would approach me with a series of sketches and captions – usually at least four but sometimes as many as six - or send them to me by email.

Wednesdays can be extremely busy and if it was one of those days when the planned lead story had just fallen through and deadline was fast approaching it was sometimes a challenge to switch from ‘hard news’ to ‘humour’ mode to make the best possible decision about which cartoon to choose.

However, Colin and I have written radio and stage comedy dramas together so we share a similar sense of humour. And he also has a fine and developed sense of being able to find a joke or make a telling comment when assessing news stories.

This tended to make the process fairly simple. Usually it was a case of simply deciding which of several contenders would have the most impact or make the most people laugh.

Of course everything that is published in the paper reflects on The Westmorland Gazette and one of my jobs when choosing the cartoon was to analyse if the cartoon could create a negative reaction among some readers, in terms of taste or tone or if some people might gauge it too critical of an individual or organisation. Cartoons, like any comment, can and should be challenging and make readers think so this could sometimes be a tricky balance to get right. But mostly Colin and I agreed and he was happy to consider some amendments if we both decided they were necessary and did not ‘kill’ the joke.

I also had to be aware that Colin has a wicked sense of humour and at least one of the cartoons each week would be undoubtedly hilarious but totally and intentionally unsuitable for publication!

Once I had chosen the cartoon Colin would go and create the finished artwork and email it to me. This item would often be the final piece of the page one jigsaw and placed on the page shortly before the final page was sent to Glasgow for printing, somewhere between 5.30pm and 6pm.

(Colin’s first cartoon on the start of the 2001 Foot & Mouth crisis)

(Colin’s first cartoon on the start of the 2001 Foot & Mouth crisis)


Over the years Colin’s cartoons have illustrated and provided an alternative viewpoint on a range of subjects, such as the Windermere 10mph speed limit, the spread of second homes in the Lake District, the loss of many rural services and levels of local police funding. While some subjects are difficult to tackle, Colin has astutely found ways to illustrate hard-hitting news stories like the outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease and the cockling tragedy on Morecambe Bay in a way that made readers think more deeply about their implications.

Few regional newspapers feature bespoke cartoons based on local, topical issues and it was a pleasure to be involved in choosing a front page element that would make people smile and also make them think – and often both at the same time.

For more of Shelbourn’s cartoons, visit www.radiocartoonist.com